Hi,
ich habe schon einige Probleme gesehen (gelesen), aber irgendwie war mein Problem nie dabei! Also: Ich hab die neuste Version von Hlcc - und ich hab ne map gebaut. Ich hab die map (mit WorldCraft oder Hammer)getestet. Das ging ca. 10-15Mal, dann ging es nicht mehr, weil HL nicht mehr die neusten Gebäude, Startpunkte etc. "baut"!! WC speichert also keine bsp und pts (??) files mehr!
Dann hab ich mal nachgelesen, und überall stand, ich solle mir Hlcc holen - das hab ich getan und eingestellt! So, aber beim compilieren sagt er, dass weder bsp-, nich pts-dateien vorhanden sind, obwohl sie da sind!! :(
da sie (angeblich) nicht da sind, kann er sie auch nicht kopieren.
als ich der map einen anderen Namen gab, hat er(hlcc) sie zwar compiliert, aber es war immer noch meine "alte" version mit der map ohne die Gebäude und Startpunkte!! :(
WAS MACHT MAN DA???? HILFT MIR BIDDE EINER!!!!

alex1023

poste mal dein compile-log (mapname.log), du hast bestimmt nen compile-fehler

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ich hab keine! echt nich - irgenwie gibt es da keine...
ich kanns ja nochmal probieren...

gefunden(!!!!):

====================================================================================================================

hlcsg v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.6.1 (Jul 15 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlcsg -----
Command line: C:\SPIELE\HALF-L~1\VALVEH~1\ZHLT\NET-CO~1\ZHLT\HLCSG.EXE -nowadtextures -high -wadinclude sniper.wad -wadinclude seraph.wad -wadinclude tfc2.wad -wadinclude sponge.wad -wadinclude masako.wad -wadinclude lplasma.wad -wadinclude dc_armstech.wad -wadinclude cached.wad -wadinclude base.wad -wadinclude art.wad -wadinclude pldecal.wad D:\Sicherheitskopien\DC\dc_komida
Entering D:\Sicherheitskopien\DC\dc_komida.map

Current hlcsg Settings
Name | Setting | Default
---------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ High ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
null texture stripping[ on ] [ on ]
clipnode economy mode [ on ] [ on ]
onlyents [ off ] [ off ]
wadtextures [ off ] [ on ]
skyclip [ on ] [ on ]
hullfile [ None ] [ None ]
min surface area [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
brush union threshold [ 0.000 ] [ 0.000 ]

Using mapfile wad configuration
Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]
[sniper.wad]
[seraph.wad]
[tfc2.wad]
[sponge.wad]
[masako.wad]
[lplasma.wad]
[dc_armstech.wad]
[cached.wad]
[base.wad]
[art.wad]
[pldecal.wad]

3 brushes (totalling 18 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
Error: Entity 0, Brush 175, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: plane with no normal
Description: The map has a problem which must be fixed
Howto Fix: Check the file ZHLTProblems.html for a detailed explanation of this problem

Error: Entity 0, Brush 175, Side 1: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 175, Side 1: has a coplanar plane at (1408, -2424, -744), texture DC_VAR1
Error: Entity 0, Brush 175, Side 2: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 175, Side 2: has a coplanar plane at (1175, -2424, -744), texture DC_VAR1
Error: Entity 0, Brush 175, Side 2: has a coplanar plane at (1175, -2424, -744), texture DC_VAR1
Error: Entity 0, Brush 911, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 911, Side 2: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 911, Side 2: has a coplanar plane at (1175, -2610, -717), texture DC_VROCK1
(24.12 seconds)

----- END hlcsg -----

hlbsp v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.6.1 (Jul 15 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlbsp -----
Command line: C:\SPIELE\HALF-L~1\VALVEH~1\ZHLT\NET-CO~1\ZHLT\HLBSP.EXE -high D:\Sicherheitskopien\DC\dc_komida
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file D:\Sicherheitskopien\DC\dc_komida.log for the cause.

----- END hlbsp -----

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<-- und nu!?

omg

Zitat:

ich hab keine! echt nich - irgenwie gibt es da keine...

Zitat:

Error: Entity 0, Brush 175, Side 1: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 175, Side 1: has a coplanar plane at (1408, -2424, -744), texture DC_VAR1
Error: Entity 0, Brush 175, Side 2: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 175, Side 2: has a coplanar plane at (1175, -2424, -744), texture DC_VAR1
Error: Entity 0, Brush 175, Side 2: has a coplanar plane at (1175, -2424, -744), texture DC_VAR1
Error: Entity 0, Brush 911, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 911, Side 2: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 911, Side 2: has a coplanar plane at (1175, -2610, -717), texture DC_VROCK1

danke erstmal, das du mir hilfst!
also: ich hab nun im zhlt help nachgesehen und da stand folgendes:

This error is always caused by vertex manipulation. A plane is defined by 3 unique coordinates. If any of the three coordinates are the same, then you don't really have a plane (its either a line or a point). There is no way to fix this error other than to delete the brush and recreate it completely.

This is most commonly caused by dragging a vertex ontop of another to destroy it for several vertexes of the same face. The resulting brush can even look correct, but the side which you have destroyed can still have a point or two defined for it. The proper way to remove a face is to use a clipper. If the object is simple (say converting a square to a wedge), then dragging an edge via the yellow control points to merge multiple vertexes at once will probably be safe.

<- Wenn ich das richtig verstanden habe, muss ich einen Brush löschen und komplett neu bauen - wie finde ich die kaputten Brushes?

in der Log steht nun nur noch das hier, nachdem ich alle Fehler meiner Map gefixet habe:

3 brushes (totalling 18 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
Error: Entity 0, Brush 910, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: plane with no normal
Description: The map has a problem which must be fixed
Howto Fix: Check the file ZHLTProblems.html for a detailed explanation of this problem

Error: Entity 0, Brush 910, Side 2: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 910, Side 2: has a coplanar plane at (1175, -2610, -717), texture DC_VROCK1

dann gug doch plz mal im compile-error artikel nach und beheb den fehler!

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ok - und was is nu schonwieder falsch? (vielen Dank!)

----- BEGIN hlcsg -----
Command line: C:\SPIELE\HALF-L~1\VALVEH~1\ZHLT\NET-CO~1\ZHLT\HLCSG.EXE -nowadtextures -high -wadinclude sniper.wad -wadinclude seraph.wad -wadinclude tfc2.wad -wadinclude sponge.wad -wadinclude masako.wad -wadinclude lplasma.wad -wadinclude dc_armstech.wad -wadinclude cached.wad -wadinclude base.wad -wadinclude art.wad -wadinclude pldecal.wad D:\Sicherheitskopien\DC\dc_komida
Entering D:\Sicherheitskopien\DC\dc_komida.map

Current hlcsg Settings
Name | Setting | Default
---------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ High ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
null texture stripping[ on ] [ on ]
clipnode economy mode [ on ] [ on ]
onlyents [ off ] [ off ]
wadtextures [ off ] [ on ]
skyclip [ on ] [ on ]
hullfile [ None ] [ None ]
min surface area [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
brush union threshold [ 0.000 ] [ 0.000 ]

Using mapfile wad configuration
Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]
[sniper.wad]
[seraph.wad]
[tfc2.wad]
[sponge.wad]
[masako.wad]
[lplasma.wad]
[dc_armstech.wad]
[cached.wad]
[base.wad]
[art.wad]
[pldecal.wad]

3 brushes (totalling 18 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
(23.79 seconds)
SetModelCenters:
(0.00 seconds)
CSGBrush:
(11.81 seconds)

Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\sponge.wad
- Contains 29 used textures, 44.62 percent of map (231 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\base.wad
- Contains 4 used textures, 6.15 percent of map (6 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\cached.wad
- Warning: Larger than expected texture (307980 bytes): 'CONBACK'
- Warning: Larger than expected texture (307980 bytes): 'LOADING'
- Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (2 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\dc_armstech.wad
- Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (69 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\lplasma.wad
- Contains 1 used texture, 1.54 percent of map (240 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\masako.wad
- Contains 1 used texture, 1.54 percent of map (82 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\pldecal.wad
- Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (1 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\seraph.wad
- Contains 7 used textures, 10.77 percent of map (28 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\sniper.wad
- Contains 13 used textures, 20.00 percent of map (415 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\art.wad
- Contains 2 used textures, 3.08 percent of map (45 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\tfc2.wad
- Contains 8 used textures, 12.31 percent of map (395 textures in wad)

Warning: More than 8 wadfiles are in use. (11)
This may be harmless, and if no strange side effects are occurring, then
it can safely be ignored. However, if your map starts exhibiting strange
or obscure errors, consider this as suspect.

Texture usage is at 3.72 mb (of 4.00 mb MAX)
37.02 seconds elapsed

----- END hlcsg -----

hlbsp v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.6.1 (Jul 15 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlbsp -----
Command line: C:\SPIELE\HALF-L~1\VALVEH~1\ZHLT\NET-CO~1\ZHLT\HLBSP.EXE -high D:\Sicherheitskopien\DC\dc_komida

Current hlbsp Settings
Name | Setting | Default
-------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ High ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
nofill [ off ] [ off ]
null tex. stripping [ on ] [ on ]
notjunc [ off ] [ off ]
subdivide size [ 240 ] [ 240 ] (Min 64) (Max 240)
max node size [ 1024 ] [ 1024 ] (Min 64) (Max 4096)

Warning: === LEAK in hull 0 ===
Entity light_environment @ (-2824,-1040,1152)
Error:
A LEAK is a hole in the map, where the inside of it is exposed to the
(unwanted) outside region. The entity listed in the error is just a helpful
indication of where the beginning of the leak pointfile starts, so the
beginning of the line can be quickly found and traced to until reaching the
outside. Unless this entity is accidentally on the outside of the map, it
probably should not be deleted. Some complex rotating objects entities need
their origins outside the map. To deal with these, just enclose the origin
brush with a solid world brush

Leak pointfile generated

Warning: === LEAK in hull 1 ===
Entity light_environment @ (-2824,-1040,1152)
Warning: === LEAK in hull 2 ===
Entity light_environment @ (-2824,-1040,1152)
Warning: === LEAK in hull 3 ===
Entity light_environment @ (-2824,-1040,1152)
15.60 seconds elapsed

----- END hlbsp -----

wenn ich die map nun testen will, sagt er mir folgendes in der Konsole:

...
costom recources total: 6.15k
Decals : 6.15k
------------------------------
Recources to request: 0 bytes
Warning: Unable to open sound/C for transphere
processing sound/C

was bedeutet das, und wie bakomm ich das weg - d.h. wie fix ich das? (kannst du mir das erklären?)

omg!
wenn du dir das compile-log mal durchlesen würdest !

Zitat:

Warning: === LEAK in hull 0 ===
Entity light_environment @ (-2824,-1040,1152)
Error:
A LEAK is a hole in the map, where the inside of it is exposed to the
(unwanted) outside region. The entity listed in the error is just a helpful
indication of where the beginning of the leak pointfile starts, so the
beginning of the line can be quickly found and traced to until reaching the
outside. Unless this entity is accidentally on the outside of the map, it
probably should not be deleted. Some complex rotating objects entities need
their origins outside the map. To deal with these, just enclose the origin
brush with a solid world brush

und dein sound c: du hast warscheinlich nen sound eingefügt (ambient_generic o.ä.)
aber im ordner "/sound" gibt es keine wave-datei, die c heist! auserdem muss da ne endung dran

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hab was gefunden! :

hlbsp: Error:
A LEAK is a hole in the map, where the inside of it is exposed to the
(unwanted) outside region. The entity listed in the error is just a helpful
indication of where the beginning of the leak pointfile starts, so the
beginning of the line can be quickly found and traced to until reaching the
outside. Unless this entity is accidentally on the outside of the map, it
probably should not be deleted. Some complex rotating objects entities need
their origins outside the map. To deal with these, just enclose the origin
brush with a solid world brush

1. wie beheb ich das - einfach nochmal nen neuen Sky machen?
2. hier:

Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]
[sniper.wad]
[seraph.wad]
[tfc2.wad]
[sponge.wad]
[masako.wad]
[lplasma.wad]
[dc_armstech.wad]
[cached.wad]
[base.wad]
[art.wad]
[pldecal.wad]

3 brushes (totalling 18 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
(23.62 seconds)
SetModelCenters:
(0.05 seconds)
CSGBrush:
(11.32 seconds)

Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\sponge.wad
- Contains 29 used textures, 44.62 percent of map (231 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\base.wad
- Contains 4 used textures, 6.15 percent of map (6 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\cached.wad
- Warning: Larger than expected texture (307980 bytes): 'CONBACK'
- Warning: Larger than expected texture (307980 bytes): 'LOADING'
- Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (2 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\dc_armstech.wad
- Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (69 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\lplasma.wad
- Contains 1 used texture, 1.54 percent of map (240 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\masako.wad
- Contains 1 used texture, 1.54 percent of map (82 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\pldecal.wad
- Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (1 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\seraph.wad
- Contains 7 used textures, 10.77 percent of map (28 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\sniper.wad
- Contains 13 used textures, 20.00 percent of map (415 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\art.wad
- Contains 2 used textures, 3.08 percent of map (45 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\tfc2.wad
- Contains 8 used textures, 12.31 percent of map (395 textures in wad)

Warning: More than 8 wadfiles are in use. (11)
This may be harmless, and if no strange side effects are occurring, then
it can safely be ignored. However, if your map starts exhibiting strange
or obscure errors, consider this as suspect.

Texture usage is at 3.72 mb (of 4.00 mb MAX)
36.80 seconds elapsed

----- END hlcsg -----

und noch ein LEAK, das kann ich aber fixen...(vielen Dank für die Hilfe!)

3. wenn ich meine Map nun starte(mit Konsole) steht da (in der Konsole):

[...]
costom recources total :6.15k
Decals: 6.15k
-----------------------------
Recources to request: 0 bytes
Warning: Unable to open sound/C [(was is das?)] for transphering
processing sound/C

hä??

aha - das leak kann ich finden
den sound bekomm ich auch hin, aber andere??? (vielen Dank für deine Gedult und deine schnelle Antwort!!!!)(ja, ich schreibe manchmal, bevor ich poste!)
(sorry - nimms mir bidde nich übel!)

Zitat:

den sound bekomm ich auch hin, aber andere???

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Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]
[sniper.wad]
[seraph.wad]
[tfc2.wad]
[sponge.wad]
[masako.wad]
[lplasma.wad]
[dc_armstech.wad]
[cached.wad]
[base.wad]
[art.wad]
[pldecal.wad]

3 brushes (totalling 18 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
(23.62 seconds)
SetModelCenters:
(0.05 seconds)
CSGBrush:
(11.32 seconds)

Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\sponge.wad
- Contains 29 used textures, 44.62 percent of map (231 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\base.wad
- Contains 4 used textures, 6.15 percent of map (6 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\cached.wad
- Warning: Larger than expected texture (307980 bytes): 'CONBACK'
- Warning: Larger than expected texture (307980 bytes): 'LOADING'
- Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (2 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\dc_armstech.wad
- Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (69 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\lplasma.wad
- Contains 1 used texture, 1.54 percent of map (240 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\masako.wad
- Contains 1 used texture, 1.54 percent of map (82 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\pldecal.wad
- Contains 0 used textures, 0.00 percent of map (1 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\seraph.wad
- Contains 7 used textures, 10.77 percent of map (28 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\sniper.wad
- Contains 13 used textures, 20.00 percent of map (415 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\art.wad
- Contains 2 used textures, 3.08 percent of map (45 textures in wad)
Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\tfc2.wad
- Contains 8 used textures, 12.31 percent of map (395 textures in wad)

Warning: More than 8 wadfiles are in use. (11)
This may be harmless, and if no strange side effects are occurring, then
it can safely be ignored. However, if your map starts exhibiting strange
or obscure errors, consider this as suspect.

Texture usage is at 3.72 mb (of 4.00 mb MAX)
36.80 seconds elapsed

----- END hlcsg -----

meine Map funktioniert zwar, aber was bedeutet das hier? Da steht zwar, das es harmlos is, aber stimmt das auch, oder bekomm ich damit später nochmal probleme, oder wenn ich es mit qRAD und Vis compiliere!?

Du benutzt zu viele wad dateien (11) es sind aber nur 8 erlaubt.
Entferne ein paar wad files die du nicht brauchst

ist aber kein fehler kannste ignorieren..
ich würd eher sagen das du mal die tuts durchlesen sollst wie mann mapt
mir scheint es so als hättest du mal so auf good luck mal los gemappt
die fehler die du bekommst kennt hier jeder das sind anfänger fehler die dadurch entstehen weil mann sich keine tuts durchliesst
wenn du richtig mappen willst dann gibt es 3 gebote
erstens
liess die tuts
2tens schau IMMER deine log files an
und 3tens
es gibt ein alt+p (glaub bin mir nicht sicher obs stimmt) da kannste schon im vorfeld im worldcraft viele fehler rausfixen einer davon ist z.b. der mit den kapputen planes deines brushes
arbeite mit vertex aber schau vorher nach obs nicht doch besser ist wenn du einige seiten clipst !

72410480
Love Peace And WorldCraft :D
Texture axis perpendicular to face? Never again: QuArK

@ Sonic

"Alt-P" stimmt schon ... =)

@ Alex1023

... schaust du dir eigentlich dir logfiles an, bevor du sie postest ?

Wenn ja - bist du des Englischen mächtig ?!

... egal, das Leak hast du gefixt, den Sound auch (ja?) ...

Zitat:

Including Wadfile: \spiele\half-life\dcrisis\cached.wad
- Warning: Larger than expected texture (307980 bytes): 'CONBACK'
- Warning: Larger than expected texture (307980 bytes): 'LOADING'

god is real - unless declared integer