Hi
In meiner TFC-map gibt es eine lange Felsenmauer. Ich hab mir 4 Felsen gemacht, und die dann Kopiert... beim kompielieren kammen dann ca. 30 errors...was tun?
Hier der compile-text:

** Executing...
** Command: Change Directory
** Parameters: D:\Games\Half-life

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "D:\Games\Half-life\real_mb.map" "D:\Games\Half-life\tfc\maps\real_mb.map"

** Executing...
** Command: G:\Dateien\Worldcraft\hlcsg.exe
** Parameters: "D:\Games\Half-life\tfc\maps\real_mb"

hlcsg v2.5.3 rel (May 2 2001)
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (zoner@gearboxsoftware.com)
----- BEGIN hlcsg -----
Command line: G:\Dateien\Worldcraft\hlcsg.exe D:\Games\Half-life\tfc\maps\real_mb

-= Current hlcsg Settings =-
Name | Setting | Default
---------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 1 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
onlyents [ off ] [ off ]
wadtextures [ on ] [ on ]
skyclip [ on ] [ on ]
hullfile [ None ] [ None ]
min surface area [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
brush union threshold [ 0.000 ] [ 0.000 ]

Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]

entering D:\Games\Half-life\tfc\maps\real_mb.map
CreateBrush:
Error: Entity 0, Brush 47, Side 1: plane with no normal
Error: plane with no normal
Description: The map has a problem which must be fixed
Howto Fix: Check the file ZHLTProblems.html for a detailed explanation of this problem

Error: Entity 0, Brush 47: outside world(+/-4096): (-9231,-10431,-5188)-(8850,10540,5986)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 47: outside world(+/-4096): (-9231,-10431,-5188)-(8850,10540,5986)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 47: outside world(+/-4096): (-9231,-10431,-5188)-(8850,10540,5986)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 47: outside world(+/-4096): (-9247,-10447,-5224)-(8866,10556,6022)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 47: outside world(+/-4096): (-9247,-10447,-5224)-(8866,10556,6022)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 47: outside world(+/-4096): (-9247,-10447,-5224)-(8866,10556,6022)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 47: outside world(+/-4096): (-9263,-10463,-5220)-(8882,10572,6018)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 47: outside world(+/-4096): (-9263,-10463,-5220)-(8882,10572,6018)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 47: outside world(+/-4096): (-9263,-10463,-5220)-(8882,10572,6018)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 47: outside world(+/-4096): (-9247,-10447,-5206)-(8866,10556,6004)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 47: outside world(+/-4096): (-9247,-10447,-5206)-(8866,10556,6004)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 47: outside world(+/-4096): (-9247,-10447,-5206)-(8866,10556,6004)
10..20..30..40..Error: Entity 0, Brush 394, Side 19: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 408, Side 23: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 417, Side 23: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 422, Side 17: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 425, Side 17: plane with no normal
50..Error: Entity 0, Brush 429, Side 16: has a coplanar plane at (-822, 773, -51), texture -1OUT_GRVL1
Error: Entity 0, Brush 437, Side 21: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 439, Side 12: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 442, Side 12: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 446, Side 7: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 446: outside world(+/-4096): (-3851,-1741,-9911)-(4936,4467,-335)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 446: outside world(+/-4096): (-3851,-1741,-9911)-(4936,4467,-335)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 446: outside world(+/-4096): (-3851,-1741,-9911)-(4936,4467,-335)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 446: outside world(+/-4096): (-3867,-1757,-9947)-(4952,4483,-299)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 446: outside world(+/-4096): (-3867,-1757,-9947)-(4952,4483,-299)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 446: outside world(+/-4096): (-3867,-1757,-9947)-(4952,4483,-299)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 446: outside world(+/-4096): (-3883,-1773,-9943)-(4968,4499,-303)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 446: outside world(+/-4096): (-3883,-1773,-9943)-(4968,4499,-303)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 446: outside world(+/-4096): (-3883,-1773,-9943)-(4968,4499,-303)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 446: outside world(+/-4096): (-3867,-1757,-9929)-(4952,4483,-317)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 446: outside world(+/-4096): (-3867,-1757,-9929)-(4952,4483,-317)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 446: outside world(+/-4096): (-3867,-1757,-9929)-(4952,4483,-317)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 447, Side 1: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 447: outside world(+/-4096): (-9352,-10360,-6139)-(8703,10522,4787)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 447: outside world(+/-4096): (-9352,-10360,-6139)-(8703,10522,4787)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 447: outside world(+/-4096): (-9352,-10360,-6139)-(8703,10522,4787)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 447: outside world(+/-4096): (-9368,-10376,-6175)-(8719,10538,4823)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 447: outside world(+/-4096): (-9368,-10376,-6175)-(8719,10538,4823)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 447: outside world(+/-4096): (-9368,-10376,-6175)-(8719,10538,4823)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 447: outside world(+/-4096): (-9384,-10392,-6171)-(8735,10554,4819)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 447: outside world(+/-4096): (-9384,-10392,-6171)-(8735,10554,4819)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 447: outside world(+/-4096): (-9384,-10392,-6171)-(8735,10554,4819)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 447: outside world(+/-4096): (-9368,-10376,-6157)-(8719,10538,4805)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 447: outside world(+/-4096): (-9368,-10376,-6157)-(8719,10538,4805)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 447: outside world(+/-4096): (-9368,-10376,-6157)-(8719,10538,4805)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 453, Side 26: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 457, Side 7: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 457, Side 21: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 457, Side 21: has a coplanar plane at (-858, 633, -316), texture -1OUT_GRVL1
Error: Entity 0, Brush 466, Side 12: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 473, Side 7: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 473: outside world(+/-4096): (-5324,-2947,-9821)-(7370,5662,-22)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 473: outside world(+/-4096): (-5324,-2947,-9821)-(7370,5662,-22)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 473: outside world(+/-4096): (-5324,-2947,-9821)-(7370,5662,-22)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 473: outside world(+/-4096): (-5340,-2963,-9857)-(7386,5678,14)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 473: outside world(+/-4096): (-5340,-2963,-9857)-(7386,5678,14)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 473: outside world(+/-4096): (-5340,-2963,-9857)-(7386,5678,14)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 473: outside world(+/-4096): (-5356,-2979,-9853)-(7402,5694,10)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 473: outside world(+/-4096): (-5356,-2979,-9853)-(7402,5694,10)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 473: outside world(+/-4096): (-5356,-2979,-9853)-(7402,5694,10)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 473: outside world(+/-4096): (-5340,-2963,-9839)-(7386,5678,-4)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 473: outside world(+/-4096): (-5340,-2963,-9839)-(7386,5678,-4)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 473: outside world(+/-4096): (-5340,-2963,-9839)-(7386,5678,-4)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 477, Side 20: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 478, Side 26: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 499, Side 17: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 506, Side 17: plane with no normal
60..Error: Entity 0, Brush 521, Side 1: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 521: outside world(+/-4096): (-9198,-10441,-5256)-(8882,10531,5918)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 521: outside world(+/-4096): (-9198,-10441,-5256)-(8882,10531,5918)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 521: outside world(+/-4096): (-9198,-10441,-5256)-(8882,10531,5918)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 521: outside world(+/-4096): (-9214,-10457,-5292)-(8898,10547,5954)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 521: outside world(+/-4096): (-9214,-10457,-5292)-(8898,10547,5954)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 521: outside world(+/-4096): (-9214,-10457,-5292)-(8898,10547,5954)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 521: outside world(+/-4096): (-9230,-10473,-5288)-(8914,10563,5950)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 521: outside world(+/-4096): (-9230,-10473,-5288)-(8914,10563,5950)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 521: outside world(+/-4096): (-9230,-10473,-5288)-(8914,10563,5950)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 521: outside world(+/-4096): (-9214,-10457,-5274)-(8898,10547,5936)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 521: outside world(+/-4096): (-9214,-10457,-5274)-(8898,10547,5936)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 521: outside world(+/-4096): (-9214,-10457,-5274)-(8898,10547,5936)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 523, Side 16: has a coplanar plane at (-810, 297, -65), texture -1OUT_GRVL1
Error: Entity 0, Brush 525, Side 19: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 531, Side 1: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 531: outside world(+/-4096): (-9191,-10443,-5270)-(8889,10529,5904)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 531: outside world(+/-4096): (-9191,-10443,-5270)-(8889,10529,5904)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 531: outside world(+/-4096): (-9191,-10443,-5270)-(8889,10529,5904)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 531: outside world(+/-4096): (-9207,-10459,-5306)-(8905,10545,5940)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 531: outside world(+/-4096): (-9207,-10459,-5306)-(8905,10545,5940)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 531: outside world(+/-4096): (-9207,-10459,-5306)-(8905,10545,5940)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 531: outside world(+/-4096): (-9223,-10475,-5302)-(8921,10561,5936)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 531: outside world(+/-4096): (-9223,-10475,-5302)-(8921,10561,5936)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 531: outside world(+/-4096): (-9223,-10475,-5302)-(8921,10561,5936)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 531: outside world(+/-4096): (-9207,-10459,-5288)-(8905,10545,5922)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 531: outside world(+/-4096): (-9207,-10459,-5288)-(8905,10545,5922)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 531: outside world(+/-4096): (-9207,-10459,-5288)-(8905,10545,5922)
Error: Entity 0, Brush 536, Side 15: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 540, Side 19: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 568, Side 16: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 571, Side 16: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 575, Side 16: has a coplanar plane at (-819, 61, -55), texture -1OUT_GRVL1
Error: Exceeded MAX_MAP_PLANES
Description: The maximum number of plane definitions has been reached
Howto Fix: The map has grown too complex

----- END hlcsg -----

** Executing...
** Command: G:\Dateien\Worldcraft\hlbsp.exe
** Parameters: "D:\Games\Half-life\tfc\maps\real_mb"

hlbsp v2.5.3 rel (May 2 2001)
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (zoner@gearboxsoftware.com)
----- BEGIN hlbsp -----
Command line: G:\Dateien\Worldcraft\hlbsp.exe D:\Games\Half-life\tfc\maps\real_mb
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file D:\Games\Half-life\tfc\maps\real_mb.log for the cause.

----- END hlbsp -----

** Executing...
** Command: G:\Dateien\Worldcraft\hlvis.exe
** Parameters: "D:\Games\Half-life\tfc\maps\real_mb"

hlvis v2.5.3 rel (May 2 2001)
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (zoner@gearboxsoftware.com)
----- BEGIN hlvis -----
Command line: G:\Dateien\Worldcraft\hlvis.exe D:\Games\Half-life\tfc\maps\real_mb
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file D:\Games\Half-life\tfc\maps\real_mb.log for the cause.

----- END hlvis -----

** Executing...
** Command: G:\Dateien\Worldcraft\hlrad.exe
** Parameters: "D:\Games\Half-life\tfc\maps\real_mb"

hlrad v2.5.3 rel (May 2 2001)
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (zoner@gearboxsoftware.com)
----- BEGIN hlrad -----
Command line: G:\Dateien\Worldcraft\hlrad.exe D:\Games\Half-life\tfc\maps\real_mb
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file D:\Games\Half-life\tfc\maps\real_mb.log for the cause.

----- END hlrad -----

Normalerweise würd ich sagen check die einzelnen Brushes durch ob die
irgendwie mit dem Worldspawn in Konflikt sind, aber das sind irgendwie ein paar viele

Was einst du mit "mit dem Worldspawn in Konflikt" ?

guck im menü unter check for problems. ich schätze das deine brushes invalid sind

zuviel gevertext?

zuviel gemappt: max_map_planes.... sowas bring ich selten zusammen

ich würde mal grob sagen du hast die felswand planlos dahingevertext und gedreht/verschoben...

bis du die fehler alle behoben hast hast du eine neue felswand gebaut

grmml.. hier war einmal eine sig | Get Firefox!

tschuldige, aber dein compile-log brachte mich zum schmunzeln :)
so viele fehler in einem log hab ich noch selten gesehen :D

Entity#: Brush# Outside World At (x,y,z)

Koordinatenangaben teilweisebei +-4096 oder etwas darüber
HL Maps dürfen nur eine bestimmte räumliche Größe haben (Maximum: ein Würfel von 8192 Units Kantenlänge). In WorldCraft bedeutet das, daß sich die Map im Koordinatensystem maximal von -4096 bis +4096 erstrecken darf (in x-, y- und z-Richtung). Ein guter Anhaltspunkt ist die Rasterfläche in WorldCraft. Empfehlenswert ist aber in jedem Fall, diesen Bereich nicht bis ganz zum Rand hin zu bebauen, sondern etwas "Luft" zu lassen.

Lösung:

Entweder liegt ein Brush oder Entity außerhalb der Grenzen des erlaubten Bereiches (WorldCraft-Raster) --> löschen oder nach innen verschieben.

Man kann die betreffenden Brushes über die "go to Brush"-Funktion von WorldCraft (ab v.3.3) leicht selektieren:
Im Menü die im Kompile-Fenster angegebene Entity- und Brush-Nummer eingeben und Enter drücken.

Das Menü ruft man mit Strg-Shift-G auf, oder findet es unter Map-->go to Brush Number

--ODER--

Entity#: Brush# Outside World At (x,y,z)

Koordinatenangaben teilweise bei +-9000
Durch unsachgemäßes Carving/Vertexing haben sich Brushes so verzerrt, daß sie über die maximal zulässigen Mapgrenzen hinausragen. Um diese Verzerrungen der Brushes sehen zu können, muß man das .map-File (nicht das .rmf!) in WorldCraft laden. --> verzerrte Brushes löschen und neu bauen.

Wenn man die Brushes ohne Begutachtung im *.map-File einfach nur löschen und neubauen will, kann man sie über die "Goto-Brush"-Funktion von WorldCraft (ab v.3.3) leicht selektieren:
Im Menü die im Kompile-Fenster angegebene Entity- und Brush-Nummer eingeben und Enter drücken.
Das Menü ruft man mit Strg-Shift-G auf, oder findet es unter Map-->go to Brush Number

Also Das hab ich aus dem Artikel von Crid. Würde ich mir auch mal zulegen.