hi leute ich hab ein problem:
als ich meine map gerade eben mit hammer compilen wollte, kam nach

----END hlrad---

die meldung

** Executing...
** Command: Copy File
** Parameters: "c:\david\maps\fy_jungle_hall.bsp" "C:\David\Counter-Strike\cstrike\maps\fy_jungle_hall.bsp"

in log und diese fehlermeldung kam (außerhalb der log):

The command failed. Windows reported the error:
"Das System kann die angegebene Datei nicht finden."

das teil hat mich dann noch gefragt ob ich weitermachen will oder nich
wenn ich auf ja geklickt hab kam genau der gleiche fehler noch mal
was kann ich da tun?

Der obere Teil fehlt!
hlrad sagt, dass die Datei fy_jungle_hall.bsp fehlt, was sicherlich vollkommen richtig ist, d.h. die Compliler zuvor hatten schon einen Fehler und haben die .bsp Datei nicht erzeugt.

(aka MDK_Woronesh)
Übertreibungen sind als Stilmittel anzusehen :)

sorry hier is noch der obere teil vom log:

** Executing...
** Command: Change Directory
** Parameters: "C:\David\Counter-Strike"

** Executing...
** Command: C:\David\zhlt253\hlcsg.exe
** Parameters: -wadinclude fy_jungle.wad "c:\david\maps\fy_jungle_hall"

hlcsg v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlcsg -----
Command line: C:\David\zhlt253\hlcsg.exe -wadinclude fy_jungle.wad c:\david\maps\fy_jungle_hall
Entering c:\david\maps\fy_jungle_hall.map

Current hlcsg Settings
Name | Setting | Default
---------------------|-----------|-------------------------
threads [ 2 ] [ Varies ]
verbose [ off ] [ off ]
log [ on ] [ on ]
developer [ 0 ] [ 0 ]
chart [ off ] [ off ]
estimate [ off ] [ off ]
max texture memory [ 4194304 ] [ 4194304 ]
priority [ Normal ] [ Normal ]

noclip [ off ] [ off ]
null texture stripping[ on ] [ on ]
clipnode economy mode [ on ] [ on ]
onlyents [ off ] [ off ]
wadtextures [ on ] [ on ]
skyclip [ on ] [ on ]
hullfile [ None ] [ None ]
min surface area [ 0.500 ] [ 0.500 ]
brush union threshold [ 0.000 ] [ 0.000 ]

Using mapfile wad configuration
Wadinclude list :
[zhlt.wad]
[fy_jungle.wad]

6 brushes (totalling 36 sides) discarded from clipping hulls
CreateBrush:
10%...20%...30%...40%...50%...60%...70%...80%...Error: Entity 0, Brush 348, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: plane with no normal
Description: The map has a problem which must be fixed
Howto Fix: Check the file ZHLTProblems.html for a detailed explanation of this problem

hier gehts noch weiter:

Error: Entity 0, Brush 349, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 348, Side 6: has a coplanar plane at (490, 166, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 349, Side 6: has a coplanar plane at (490, 44, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 348, Side 7: has a coplanar plane at (491, 163, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 349, Side 7: has a coplanar plane at (491, 41, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 348, Side 8: has a coplanar plane at (494, 164, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 349, Side 8: has a coplanar plane at (494, 42, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 348, Side 9: has a coplanar plane at (493, 167, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 349, Side 9: has a coplanar plane at (493, 45, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 348, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (491, 167, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 349, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (491, 45, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 348, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (491, 167, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 349, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (491, 45, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 348, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (494, 166, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 349, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (494, 44, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 348, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (494, 166, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 349, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (494, 44, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 348, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (493, 163, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 349, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (493, 41, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 348, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (493, 163, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 349, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (493, 41, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 348, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (490, 164, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 349, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (490, 42, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 348, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (490, 164, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 349, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (490, 42, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 350, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 351, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 350, Side 6: has a coplanar plane at (368, 166, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 351, Side 6: has a coplanar plane at (368, 44, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 350, Side 7: has a coplanar plane at (369, 163, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 351, Side 7: has a coplanar plane at (369, 41, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 350, Side 8: has a coplanar plane at (372, 164, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 351, Side 8: has a coplanar plane at (372, 42, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 350, Side 9: has a coplanar plane at (371, 167, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 351, Side 9: has a coplanar plane at (371, 45, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 350, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (369, 167, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 351, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (369, 45, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 350, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (369, 167, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 351, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (369, 45, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 350, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (372, 166, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 351, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (372, 44, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 350, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (372, 166, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 351, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (372, 44, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 350, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (371, 163, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 351, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (371, 41, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 350, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (371, 163, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 351, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (371, 41, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 350, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (368, 164, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 351, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (368, 42, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 350, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (368, 164, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 351, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (368, 42, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 353, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 353, Side 6: has a coplanar plane at (-825, -251, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 353, Side 7: has a coplanar plane at (-824, -254, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 354, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 353, Side 8: has a coplanar plane at (-821, -253, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 354, Side 6: has a coplanar plane at (-825, -373, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 353, Side 9: has a coplanar plane at (-822, -250, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 354, Side 7: has a coplanar plane at (-824, -376, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 354, Side 8: has a coplanar plane at (-821, -375, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 354, Side 9: has a coplanar plane at (-822, -372, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 354, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (-824, -372, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 353, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (-824, -250, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 354, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (-824, -372, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 354, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (-821, -373, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 354, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (-821, -373, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 354, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (-822, -376, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 353, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (-824, -250, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 354, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (-822, -376, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 354, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (-825, -375, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 354, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (-825, -375, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 355, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 355, Side 6: has a coplanar plane at (-947, -251, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 355, Side 7: has a coplanar plane at (-946, -254, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 353, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (-821, -251, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 355, Side 8: has a coplanar plane at (-943, -253, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 355, Side 9: has a coplanar plane at (-944, -250, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 355, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (-946, -250, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 355, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (-946, -250, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 355, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (-943, -251, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 355, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (-943, -251, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 355, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (-944, -254, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 353, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (-821, -251, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 355, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (-944, -254, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 353, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (-822, -254, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 355, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (-947, -253, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 355, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (-947, -253, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 356, Side 0: plane with no normal
Error: Entity 0, Brush 356, Side 6: has a coplanar plane at (-947, -373, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 356, Side 7: has a coplanar plane at (-946, -376, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 356, Side 8: has a coplanar plane at (-943, -375, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 356, Side 9: has a coplanar plane at (-944, -372, 103), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 356, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (-946, -372, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 356, Side 10: has a coplanar plane at (-946, -372, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 356, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (-943, -373, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 356, Side 11: has a coplanar plane at (-943, -373, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 356, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (-944, -376, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 353, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (-822, -254, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 356, Side 12: has a coplanar plane at (-944, -376, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 356, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (-947, -375, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 356, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (-947, -375, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 353, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (-825, -253, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
Error: Entity 0, Brush 353, Side 13: has a coplanar plane at (-825, -253, 208), texture WOOD_PLANKS
90%... (0.91 seconds)

----- END hlcsg -----

** Executing...
** Command: C:\David\zhlt253\hlbsp.exe
** Parameters: "c:\david\maps\fy_jungle_hall"

hlbsp v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlbsp -----
Command line: C:\David\zhlt253\hlbsp.exe c:\david\maps\fy_jungle_hall
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file c:\david\maps\fy_jungle_hall.log for the cause.

----- END hlbsp -----

** Executing...
** Command: C:\David\zhlt253\hlvis.exe
** Parameters: "c:\david\maps\fy_jungle_hall"

hlvis v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlvis -----
Command line: C:\David\zhlt253\hlvis.exe c:\david\maps\fy_jungle_hall
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file c:\david\maps\fy_jungle_hall.log for the cause.

----- END hlvis -----

** Executing...
** Command: C:\David\zhlt253\hlrad.exe
** Parameters: "c:\david\maps\fy_jungle_hall"

hlrad v2.5.3 rel Custom Build 1.7 (Dec 9 2002)
Zoner's Half-Life Compilation Tools -- Custom Build
Based on code modifications by Sean 'Zoner' Cavanaugh
Based on Valve's version, modified with permission.
Submit detailed bug reports to (merlinis@bigpond.net.au)
----- BEGIN hlrad -----
Command line: C:\David\zhlt253\hlrad.exe c:\david\maps\fy_jungle_hall
>> There was a problem compiling the map.
>> Check the file c:\david\maps\fy_jungle_hall.log for the cause.

----- END hlrad -----

ich hoffe jemand kann mir damit helfen

Also es gibt 2 Möglichkeiten:
1. Du schaust, ob du mit Alt + P ("Check for Problems") das grade biegen kannst.
2. Du suchst jeden brush heraus und guckst, was daran falsch sein könnte.

Ich glaube eher, dass Hammer das schon schafft (1.Möglichkeit).

Eine "Plane with no normal" kann z.B. ein Blockbrush mit 9 Ecken sein oder ein Zylinder, der zum Block verformt wurde.

(aka MDK_Woronesh)
Übertreibungen sind als Stilmittel anzusehen :)

ich hab den check for problems schon mehrere male gemacht aber da wurde nix gefunden.
ich hab die WOOD_PLANKS texturen auch schon ersetzt (zumindest stand vor denen ja error) aber das geht immer noch nich.
ich bin grad ziemlich ratlos und auch ganz schön deprimiert.
das is jetzt nämlich meine erste map und ich hab die gerade fertig gekriegt.
und wo ich se compilen will gehts net

Das Problem sind ja auch nicht die Texturen, sondern die Brushes selbst.

Und das mit den Probs hatte ich auch bei meiner ersten Map. :) Das is ganz normal.

(aka MDK_Woronesh)
Übertreibungen sind als Stilmittel anzusehen :)

ach dann meinst du wenn ich die brushes entferne dass es dann gehen könnte?
ich werds ma ausprobiern

WARTE^^ du musst sie nicht löschen, sondern nur korrigieren.
Denn so wie es aussieht, sind das ziemlich viele deiner Brushes.

(aka MDK_Woronesh)
Übertreibungen sind als Stilmittel anzusehen :)

ich hab sie gelöscht. es waren nur acht stück.
danach hats auf jeden fall geklappt.
weißt du wie ich die dinger korrigieren kann oder was daran falsch is?
das sind solche quader mit seiten die hab ich in ner größeren größe gemacht. ich glaub 15 x 15 (als block) und hab dann die ecken abgeschnitten und die fläche die dabei entstanden is mit dem vertextool nach außen gebogen und anschließen mit dem vertextool mit alt+e verkleinert.
im check for problems wurden die ja nicht angezeigt

Ah ja das war das Problem.
VHE kann damit nicht so einfach umgehen, wenn du Brushes zerschneidest.
Und wenn du dann noch das ganze mit dem Vertex Tool veränderst geht gar nichts mehr ;).

Als du die Art das Brushes ausgewählt hast, hast du ihm mitgeteil, dass er ein Rechteck bauen soll. Nur wundert er sich dann, wenn dein Rechteck mehr als 12 Ecken hat :).

(aka MDK_Woronesh)
Übertreibungen sind als Stilmittel anzusehen :)

stich kann doch mit dem block tool auch quader machen. das müsste doch dann gehen oder?

jaja solange die ihre 8 Ecken behalten is das kein Problem. wenn die so eine komische Form haben sollen schuster dir den rest aus Dreiecken und so weiter zusammen.

(aka MDK_Woronesh)
Übertreibungen sind als Stilmittel anzusehen :)

stimmt hatte ich glatt vergessen.
die teile sollen 4 x 4 units groß werden und da is das mit den dreiecken auch recht schwierig.
man kann halt nich alles haben (schade)
vielen dank für die hilfe. ich hoffe das wars erst mal